tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-381261963391055840.post3611936628560804479..comments2024-03-26T10:34:41.872-07:00Comments on Far Away Series: TRADITIONfarawayeyeshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17578277501054242356noreply@blogger.comBlogger25125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-381261963391055840.post-69993461167550726652013-10-31T12:32:30.817-07:002013-10-31T12:32:30.817-07:00It's hard for me to wade in to these discussio...It's hard for me to wade in to these discussions because I'm a traditionalist myself. I don't want to foist my opinions or traditions on anyone, so I do kinda get upset with the latest trends of mocking everything that's come before (yea, yea, I'll bet they did that even in Ancient Rome. But still). Making fun of someone for holding traditional (or, okay, religious) beliefs doesn't make that person better than the other (or vice versa).<br />Can't we all just get along? :-)Deniz Bevanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17134553551048836979noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-381261963391055840.post-87243124625017725212013-10-30T17:25:08.392-07:002013-10-30T17:25:08.392-07:00I'm excited to see and hear some Fiddler on th...I'm excited to see and hear some Fiddler on the Roof! Woohoo. Thank you. <br /><br />As far as tradition, as long as sexism and other isms don't dictate societal norms, I'm all for it.<br /><br />xoRobyn Rawknrobyn.blogspot.comhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15997241410192066577noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-381261963391055840.post-87703646414978853552013-10-30T13:50:57.655-07:002013-10-30T13:50:57.655-07:00Christine - Sorry I missed you comment earlier. I ...Christine - Sorry I missed you comment earlier. I applause your commitment to your family. Just think had you not opted to be a stay at home mom, maybe we all wouldn't be enjoyIng your writingfarawayeyeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17578277501054242356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-381261963391055840.post-17966379397571501062013-10-29T17:56:51.408-07:002013-10-29T17:56:51.408-07:00LD - Thus post, as with all of my yakking, isn'...LD - Thus post, as with all of my yakking, isn't intended to paint ANYONE other than MYSELF in any particular light. Everyone has ti make their own decisions based. In the circumstances(that only they would know) of their own lives.farawayeyeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17578277501054242356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-381261963391055840.post-6668975894375557172013-10-29T17:00:45.683-07:002013-10-29T17:00:45.683-07:00I have no problem with your take on traditions but...I have no problem with your take on traditions but I would make a comment on the two income family. My son and his wife both work outside the home full time. They don't do it to afford the latest X-box. They do it to afford the house payment and the grocery bills and their special needs daughter's medication. Be careful not to paint people with too broad a brush.LD Mastersonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01202135756299574972noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-381261963391055840.post-73363217330265815262013-10-29T15:42:11.056-07:002013-10-29T15:42:11.056-07:00Lee - I hadn't originally planned to, but this...Lee - I hadn't originally planned to, but this post is leading up to my BOTB post for this Friday (already written and ready to go - how very unlike me). <br /><br />In the end I should really THANK that person who set me off on this 'tradition' rant.farawayeyeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17578277501054242356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-381261963391055840.post-86428433111826392332013-10-29T15:22:43.642-07:002013-10-29T15:22:43.642-07:00I am pretty traditional in my thinking. In fact t...I am pretty traditional in my thinking. In fact the community in which I live is called "Traditions" and I feel good about that name. One of my favorite family traditions is getting together at Christmas. It's more difficult to do in recent years but we try best we can.<br /><br />Traditional roles do make sense for reasons mentioned in comments above. Can't add much to that.<br /><br />I'm finding I can get a lot of topic mileage out of the BOTB posts. You carried this on great. Maybe we can start a tradition.<br /><br />Lee<br /><a href="http://tossingitout.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">Tossing It Out</a><br />Arlee Birdhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11663942782929929334noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-381261963391055840.post-50317715728299729782013-10-29T12:58:51.811-07:002013-10-29T12:58:51.811-07:00STMc - I knew you would, but I'm surprised you...STMc - I knew you would, but I'm surprised you found that.farawayeyeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17578277501054242356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-381261963391055840.post-19565647612443372632013-10-29T12:57:52.448-07:002013-10-29T12:57:52.448-07:00Denise - couldn't agree more. Your Bloghop sou...Denise - couldn't agree more. Your Bloghop sounds like fun. I'll try to participate.farawayeyeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17578277501054242356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-381261963391055840.post-62561863529585610422013-10-29T07:14:18.904-07:002013-10-29T07:14:18.904-07:00>>... I don't think I could ever go to K...<i>>>... I don't think I could ever go to Korea, North or South as I've recently learned that the people there don not know how to pronounce the number 'five' correctly.</i><br /><br />HA! I got it.<br /><br />"There's a v in five". <br />It's not "fie"!<br /><br />~ D-FensDogg<br />'Loyal American Underground'Stephen T. McCarthyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00249125637725791567noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-381261963391055840.post-66980561810607371962013-10-28T22:01:46.490-07:002013-10-28T22:01:46.490-07:00Long live tradition...good ones that is. There are...Long live tradition...good ones that is. There are some traditions I don't like - like women being chattles in some countries living in the Middle Ages, but I love good traditions like families eating together, celebrating holidays together, passing on good books to each other...etc. I even run a bloghop in December each year, highlighting holiday traditions in cultures around the world.<br /><br />DeniseDenise Covey https://www.blogger.com/profile/07106490051555233439noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-381261963391055840.post-62874535050095709152013-10-28T15:37:39.566-07:002013-10-28T15:37:39.566-07:00I believe parents as the primary role models and t...I believe parents as the primary role models and tradition are important. I opted to stay home with our son. And while it makes our finances tight, we can do without the fancy stuff for the sake of our son. He's happy, healthy, smart, and well mannered. I wouldn't give up all the time with him for the world.<br /><br />We also have dinner together. I had that growing up (stopped when I was a teenager), but it's a wonderful time to connect. My family used to go on hikes together too. As often as we can, we do that with our son.Christine Rainshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08263694662585963900noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-381261963391055840.post-90080110399894668082013-10-28T14:45:21.049-07:002013-10-28T14:45:21.049-07:00Mr. McCarthy - What a lovely comment. It certainly...Mr. McCarthy - What a lovely comment. It certainly was well worth the wait. Now, you and I both know I don't really think I'm a 'dumb blonde' but something I do REAL dumb blonde things. I find it better to beat my readers to the punch, by admitting right out loud that I do 'have my moments'.farawayeyeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17578277501054242356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-381261963391055840.post-21597088832147551782013-10-28T14:42:20.383-07:002013-10-28T14:42:20.383-07:00Kim - You have brought up a good point. I too miss...Kim - You have brought up a good point. I too miss some of those traditional 'holiday program'. Every year around Thanksgiving I used to watch 'The Wizard of Oz', along with the Charlie Brown series. It was fun to watch and then talk with my friends about it because, as you said; 'we were all really watching together'. Fun traditions that probably won't return.farawayeyeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17578277501054242356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-381261963391055840.post-9724159193149870832013-10-28T09:19:57.065-07:002013-10-28T09:19:57.065-07:00FAE ~
Last night, I learned how to access my favor...FAE ~<br />Last night, I learned how to access my favorite blogs from work, so I was able to read your words "on the clock". But images and videos are still unavailable to me until I get home.<br /><br />I don't need to tell you how I feel about certain traditions, how I feel about "Feminism", etc. Suffice to say that you and I are on the same page. <br /><br />Traditions are vital. And some traditions can be tweaked over time, to suit new needs (just as the U.S. Constitution lays out a way by which future generations can legally alter it to meet needs unimagined by the Constitution's creators), but what God commands us to do should be a tradition unchanged forever in "this world".<br /><br /><i>>>... Now a lot of you are probably thinking that I’m confusing TRADITION with RELIGION, but let’s face it, especially to the non-believers, religion is little more than tradition, unless of course, they want to use it as a weapon against the believers.</i><br /><br />Ain't no "dumb blonde" hereabouts!<br /><br />I've seen 'FIDDLER ON THE ROOF' twice, and I really like it, but I don't know it well enough and I would not have thought to utilize it in this "traditionalism" context. Pretty damned "genius" for someone who often seems like she wants to convince us she's a "dumb blonde". <br /><br />Anyway... this was great. I hope a certain "commenter" sees it. But if she does, she'll probably be aghast to learn that you're "THAT" kind of "traditionalist". How DARE you?!<br /><br /><i>You may ask, "How did this tradition get started?" I'll tell you. ...I don't know. ...BUT, it's a TRADITION!</i><br /><br />I literally laughed out loud. (There's too much I've forgotten about this movie.)<br /><br />~ D-FensDogg<br />'Loyal American Underground'Stephen T. McCarthyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00249125637725791567noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-381261963391055840.post-71605139279761338592013-10-28T09:09:47.504-07:002013-10-28T09:09:47.504-07:00Traditions are essential! I am all for people crea...Traditions are essential! I am all for people creating their own. But I also miss the times when more of us celebrated the same ones. (Here's a little something that never happens anymore: when I was a kid and we only had three TV channels, we kids eagerly anticipated the time every year when the holiday cartoon shows came on like Charlie Brown's The Great Pumpkin and of course all of the Christmas shows. We'd anticipate them and quote lines from them the next day. That never happens anymore.) And as it turns out, over at Swagger Writers today we are being unPC and talking about one of our favorite traditions: Halloween.Kim Van Sicklerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04957877837203134260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-381261963391055840.post-32401544208010735892013-10-28T07:35:01.083-07:002013-10-28T07:35:01.083-07:00wOW! These are some exceptional comments.
Holy Gh...wOW! These are some exceptional comments.<br /><br />Holy Ghost - Everyone has to make their own way.<br /><br />Alex - Certainly a worthy tradition that has gone by the wayside in too many families, especially where there are no children in the home. Good for you.<br /><br />Robin - the situation you cite is just one of many areas where society and cultural practices have gotten way out of control. Balance is certainly important, but from the beginning of time it has been the goal of the father of all lies to knock EVERYTHING out of balance causing confusion and leading us far from our purpose. If we personally 'know who we are and what God expects of us', we can individually keep our balance in a world gone topsy turvy.<br /><br />Pat - I' glad you agree.<br /><br />STMc - I'll be looking towards it.<br /><br />Chris - Good point. Blind ritual because 'this is the way we have always done it' is not true tradition and pretty meaningless. The WHY is what gives it meaning.<br /><br />Bish nd Beer boys - What each of you has expressed deals with adaptation of traditions, values and standards. I think that adapting to fit your personal needs is important as long as you keep your priorities in order. You guys seems to have that under control.<br /><br />farawayeyeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17578277501054242356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-381261963391055840.post-75543876131440565602013-10-28T06:12:57.022-07:002013-10-28T06:12:57.022-07:00It's okay to move away from certain traditions...It's okay to move away from certain traditions to make your own, but I hate that the old traditions are labeled as bad. Like if a woman gets married and stays home with her kid, she's looked down on. So instead she's encouraged to get a 60 hour a week job and leave her kid to be raised by an overpriced daycare service.<br /><br />My wife is training to become a doctor, and we've both discussed that she would be away from the house a lot but she'd also make plenty of money for the two of us. So I'll more than likely be the stay at home writer dad.<br /><br />So you see, we'll be making our own tradition, but it still WILL be traditional. No nanny/daycare is raising a son or daughter of mine.A Beer for the Showerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17029139745335325356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-381261963391055840.post-43548575485202416922013-10-28T05:26:47.386-07:002013-10-28T05:26:47.386-07:00I definitely agree with you that time spent with y...I definitely agree with you that time spent with your kids is WAY more important to money spent on them. It's the memories parents create for their children that are important.<br /><br />I think traditions are important too. They bring a sense of continuity and belonging to a group. But I also think traditions can and should change over time. What was appropriate say a hundred years ago, probably wouldn't work today.<br /><br />We can create traditions as we need them. My husband and I, having no children, have several traditions that have evolved around the holidays that work for us. And they have changed to include another couple. The four of us have created a new set of traditions that bring joy. Would they work for someone else? Probably not, but it doesn't matter.Bish Denhamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13359927719391990534noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-381261963391055840.post-31533086690108135182013-10-28T05:00:04.756-07:002013-10-28T05:00:04.756-07:00I absolutely agree. Everyone needs some honored t...I absolutely agree. Everyone needs some honored traditions in their life. It helps anchor them to their history, family, and society.<br /><br />But tradition shouldn't necessarily be a goal in itself because it can lead to blind ritual where the only meaning has devolved into, "but that's just the way we've always done it."<br /><br />Understanding WHY you follow tradition is much more important than the tradition itself.<br />StratPlayerCJFhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07341440379767694905noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-381261963391055840.post-24996419388940965662013-10-27T18:42:19.819-07:002013-10-27T18:42:19.819-07:00FAE ~
Oh, you finally got it posted - GREAT! I'...FAE ~<br />Oh, you finally got it posted - GREAT! I'll be back to read it after work tonight (about 7 AM or so). Gotta shower and go now though. <br /><br />~ D-FensDogg<br />'Loyal American Underground'Stephen T. McCarthyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00249125637725791567noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-381261963391055840.post-82522783550699313162013-10-27T16:38:57.971-07:002013-10-27T16:38:57.971-07:00Yep, just gone way way down hill. All that crap li...Yep, just gone way way down hill. All that crap like big houses and such is not needed. It's stupid. Don't even get me started on those idiots that whine stuff at christmas offends them. They don't like it, shut the hell up lolPat Hatthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07745293224202430152noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-381261963391055840.post-26378664622670800942013-10-27T16:36:41.660-07:002013-10-27T16:36:41.660-07:00As much as tradition has been left in the dust, so...As much as tradition has been left in the dust, so has balance. It seems like I constantly hear and read about people struggling to find the balance in their lives. I know that it has been a problem for me over the years. <br /><br />I do think throwing out tradition is responsible for many of our woes. We have gone from it being unheard of for an unmarried woman to have a child out of wedlock to it somehow being the rage. Everyone is doing it. But is that best for the child? The mother? The father not being in the picture? Where is the balance? We have gone from spurning a person who made a mistake and got pregnant to embracing something that isn't actually good for society. In other words one end of the pendulum to the other. Things will only get better when the balance is found. <br /><br />Great post. There is plenty to chew on here.Robinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14932408372240147454noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-381261963391055840.post-43976070385622095762013-10-27T16:10:36.907-07:002013-10-27T16:10:36.907-07:00You'll get no argument from me.
My wife and I ...You'll get no argument from me.<br />My wife and I always have dinner together. Yes, it's often in front of the television, but we do take time to talk and discuss our day and anything else going on in our lives. I think that's a tradition that has been lost that would benefit a lot of families.Alex J. Cavanaughhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09770065693345181702noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-381261963391055840.post-68521492339984225302013-10-27T15:54:54.041-07:002013-10-27T15:54:54.041-07:00Tend to move with the timesTend to move with the timesHoly Ghost Writerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16107809586103198047noreply@blogger.com